A PODCAST IN NEW YORK: WHY I'LL NEVER MAKE IT

Just two days before their New York premiere of the second iteration of We Need This Musical To Stop Us From Killing Ourselves: The Musical, Jeff and creative partner Glasgow Lyman sat down with Patrick Oliver Jones, host of the podcast Why I’ll Never Make It, to talk all things writing, music, shepherding sheep in Italy, working set design for Playboy, and so much more.